There was no shortage of eye-popping moments at the Reform UK party conference, and this one was unusual because it didn't involve Andrea Jenkyns.
It was a speech by controversial doctor and RFK Jr advisor Aseem Malhotra who suggested the Covid vaccine caused cancer in the royal family, which apparently proved a bit too far even for members of Reform UK.
But not this particular Reform UK-er, Laila Cunningham, who's a lawyer and former prosecutor (and ex-Tory, obviously) so LBC's Lewis Goodall had a few things to say about that, and a proper bang up job he did too.
And here are just a few of the things people said about it.